Michael Savage banned from UK
I just caught a bit of Newsnight, and I couldn't believe this story that conservative US radio host and writer Michael Savage has actually been banned by the Labour government from entering the UK.
Apparently, according to the BBC it's so morally uncertain a topic it actually deserved a debate on Newsnight, where one side likened to the notion of someone like Chris Moyles being banned from entering the US.
CNN: "Radio talk show host Michael Savage and the anti-gay Rev. Fred Phelps were listed Tuesday among white supremacists and radical Islamic clerics who will not be allowed into the country.
Savage, whose conservative daily show can be heard on radio stations across America, lashed out in an audio clip on his Web site and devoted seven stories on his main page to the ban. He is listed under his real name, Michael Alan Wiener.
Britain's Home Office said it decided to exclude the 22 people on the list after measures by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith last year targeting people "who have engaged in spreading hate"
There is a sinister message that we do need to address, yet at first it's kind of difficult to know where to start with this really, it's so extraordinarily dumb. And when you're dealing with things that are very very dumb attempts to say something we all have to waste our time unraveling the dumbness for the dummies and kinda going backwards.
The lead dummy in this case being the tragic 'Home Secretary' Jaqui Smith.
I think we've said this before, it's just not enough to just have a job unfortunately, or be a women doing a job. That's not enough or any kind of standard or qualification.
And Labour does have this rather deep pool of women who kinda look and act like social workers who unfortunately, very very sadly just simply don't have a lot of ability, or qualities perhaps apart from loyalty and that's why they have been placed in the jobs they have. And it is a sadness, but there we are.
Unfortunately Jaqui Smith simply can't even fake any semblance of a grain of competence or judgment. There's no question at all she's been advised to do this and I very much doubt she even knows why she is doing it, other there seems to be some sort of leftist zeitgeist around her which she thinks is some sort of evolutionary step in civilization.
If you listen to this poor woman on Newsnight it's just staggering ineptitude and obedience (which again makes her more than qualified for the job), with phrases like 'the privilege of entering the UK' and stuff like that.
Oh dear.
That's one part of this. The next part is what message does it send ? As I understand it Michael Savage, who I was already aware of, is a pretty mainstream conservative talk show host. People like Rush Limbaugh would be others.
For sure a lot of Patriots and activists in America, almost certainly would say that Savage doesn't even go anywhere near far enough.
However context can be a big issue and Savage's 'mistake' if you like (and I don't mean that of course, I'm being sarcastic) is that he's not afraid of making relatively (and I stress relatively) controversial (i.e according the highest doctrinal prescriptions of the media) comments.
The Daily Telegraph suggest that Savage was banned for his opinions about homosexuality, and indeed the gay thing is a special protected proxy and symbolic object, almost certainly for it's unique ability to add a dose of up is down, black is white.
Also I would say things like immigration (which is a massive taboo) and I suspect this in particular and of course his general tone (rather humorous like Anne Coulter etc) about different groups (i.e the ability to loosely even speak about groups), along with his probably otherwise rather unchallenging conservative light issues (low taxes etc) and the fact he has quite an audience makes him something of a problem potentially, because some of those issues are just too hot to be acceptable as mainstream, and the media goes to great lengths to set very sharp boundaries of acceptable debate.
So the message seems to be this: talking about groups is totally unacceptable. It just cannot be done.
Immigration is socially sacrosanct, morally immutable and cannot be discussed.
If you have some following doing that then watch out, someone will at some time try to make an example of you to send a message to others.
And of course it's utterly revolting that Savage and some others have been banned in this way, it's absolutely vile. It's also highly conspicuous that everyone in the media from the BBC to the Telegraph feel the need to corroborate that Savage is saying morally archaic or even wicked things when he's just being himself and that we still need to be 'broad minded' enough to allow these people to speak.
The whole thing is just a complete farce.
As the Telegraph shockingly incorrectly moralise, "We seem to allow plenty of preachers of hate into the country, with vile views about women, homosexuals and blowing up tube trains full of Britons. Either ban both, or neither."
As if banning both makes everything right. Good Lord.
So what would this world look like with no conservative thought or actions ? Well that's the idea, and I'm only sorry some people out there just don't seem to get this.
There has been, and which this incident is just another example of in a lingering list, a long standing trend, to delegitimize any kind of conservative inclinations or displays of genuine conservatism or anything that even looks like it might be genuine conservatism and that's been going on for some time.
Frankly, I wouldn't even use the term conservatism, but apparently what is normal to a lot of people now needs some political annotation.
But it's palpable and repeated throughout the media and government policy; the idea is get rid of conservatism, to make it totally a moral dinosaur, and hold up a fanatical, militant, highly autistic leftist pool of cretinous card-swiping plebs (believing there is modern morality therein) with government commissars handing out privileges as the norm.
And I'm afraid it's got to the point, that I think now we're going to have a very very serious and honest look at this.
Apparently, according to the BBC it's so morally uncertain a topic it actually deserved a debate on Newsnight, where one side likened to the notion of someone like Chris Moyles being banned from entering the US.
CNN: "Radio talk show host Michael Savage and the anti-gay Rev. Fred Phelps were listed Tuesday among white supremacists and radical Islamic clerics who will not be allowed into the country.
Savage, whose conservative daily show can be heard on radio stations across America, lashed out in an audio clip on his Web site and devoted seven stories on his main page to the ban. He is listed under his real name, Michael Alan Wiener.
Britain's Home Office said it decided to exclude the 22 people on the list after measures by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith last year targeting people "who have engaged in spreading hate"
There is a sinister message that we do need to address, yet at first it's kind of difficult to know where to start with this really, it's so extraordinarily dumb. And when you're dealing with things that are very very dumb attempts to say something we all have to waste our time unraveling the dumbness for the dummies and kinda going backwards.
The lead dummy in this case being the tragic 'Home Secretary' Jaqui Smith.
I think we've said this before, it's just not enough to just have a job unfortunately, or be a women doing a job. That's not enough or any kind of standard or qualification.
And Labour does have this rather deep pool of women who kinda look and act like social workers who unfortunately, very very sadly just simply don't have a lot of ability, or qualities perhaps apart from loyalty and that's why they have been placed in the jobs they have. And it is a sadness, but there we are.
Unfortunately Jaqui Smith simply can't even fake any semblance of a grain of competence or judgment. There's no question at all she's been advised to do this and I very much doubt she even knows why she is doing it, other there seems to be some sort of leftist zeitgeist around her which she thinks is some sort of evolutionary step in civilization.
If you listen to this poor woman on Newsnight it's just staggering ineptitude and obedience (which again makes her more than qualified for the job), with phrases like 'the privilege of entering the UK' and stuff like that.
Oh dear.
That's one part of this. The next part is what message does it send ? As I understand it Michael Savage, who I was already aware of, is a pretty mainstream conservative talk show host. People like Rush Limbaugh would be others.
For sure a lot of Patriots and activists in America, almost certainly would say that Savage doesn't even go anywhere near far enough.
However context can be a big issue and Savage's 'mistake' if you like (and I don't mean that of course, I'm being sarcastic) is that he's not afraid of making relatively (and I stress relatively) controversial (i.e according the highest doctrinal prescriptions of the media) comments.
The Daily Telegraph suggest that Savage was banned for his opinions about homosexuality, and indeed the gay thing is a special protected proxy and symbolic object, almost certainly for it's unique ability to add a dose of up is down, black is white.
Also I would say things like immigration (which is a massive taboo) and I suspect this in particular and of course his general tone (rather humorous like Anne Coulter etc) about different groups (i.e the ability to loosely even speak about groups), along with his probably otherwise rather unchallenging conservative light issues (low taxes etc) and the fact he has quite an audience makes him something of a problem potentially, because some of those issues are just too hot to be acceptable as mainstream, and the media goes to great lengths to set very sharp boundaries of acceptable debate.
So the message seems to be this: talking about groups is totally unacceptable. It just cannot be done.
Immigration is socially sacrosanct, morally immutable and cannot be discussed.
If you have some following doing that then watch out, someone will at some time try to make an example of you to send a message to others.
And of course it's utterly revolting that Savage and some others have been banned in this way, it's absolutely vile. It's also highly conspicuous that everyone in the media from the BBC to the Telegraph feel the need to corroborate that Savage is saying morally archaic or even wicked things when he's just being himself and that we still need to be 'broad minded' enough to allow these people to speak.
The whole thing is just a complete farce.
As the Telegraph shockingly incorrectly moralise, "We seem to allow plenty of preachers of hate into the country, with vile views about women, homosexuals and blowing up tube trains full of Britons. Either ban both, or neither."
As if banning both makes everything right. Good Lord.
So what would this world look like with no conservative thought or actions ? Well that's the idea, and I'm only sorry some people out there just don't seem to get this.
There has been, and which this incident is just another example of in a lingering list, a long standing trend, to delegitimize any kind of conservative inclinations or displays of genuine conservatism or anything that even looks like it might be genuine conservatism and that's been going on for some time.
Frankly, I wouldn't even use the term conservatism, but apparently what is normal to a lot of people now needs some political annotation.
But it's palpable and repeated throughout the media and government policy; the idea is get rid of conservatism, to make it totally a moral dinosaur, and hold up a fanatical, militant, highly autistic leftist pool of cretinous card-swiping plebs (believing there is modern morality therein) with government commissars handing out privileges as the norm.
And I'm afraid it's got to the point, that I think now we're going to have a very very serious and honest look at this.
Labels: ban, freedom of speech, Home Office, Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, Michael Savage
2 Comments:
Boris Jonson puts it all very plainly in the Telegraph. Britain (the british regime) has totally and irrevocably lost it. There are some sane voices out there, but frankly I wouldn't trust them even if they are saying the right things. And you know why.
Thanks for posting that Irdial, very good article.
The impression I get about Savage is he's not really taken that seriously. I've heard a lot of patriots and activists in the US have very little time for him.
It's a gaff on the one hand, but it's also sinister even it seems a ridiculously embarrassing thing to do to us, because I just don't put anything past some the forces out there, i.e they don't care if banning Savage is embarrassing, stupid, ridiculous and crass, it's accumulative and that's what's important.
Thanks for posting Irdial!
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