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Monday, October 01, 2007

Labour's communist police state again

You've probably seen the front page of yesterday's Mail on Sunday

"Officials from the top of Government to lowly council officers will be given unprecedented powers to access details of every phone call in Britain under laws coming into force tomorrow. The new rules compel phone companies to retain information, however private, about all landline and mobile calls, and make them available to some 795 public bodies and quangos. The move, enacted by the personal decree of Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, will give police and security services a right they have long demanded: to delve at will into the phone records of British citizens and businesses"

As usual the Daily Mail are permitted to complain about all this stuff, but within the acceptable boundaries of plebdom. So it goes, "what if it falls into the wrong hands ?". But of course, one struggles to think what is the 'right hands' in this circumstance. We've talked about all this stuff before on here.

Council workers asking permission from a nominated person ? Various other agencies, quangos ?

You have to think about it. What possible means do they have to interpret or act on such information ? Presumably it will be possible to phone up any government agency and arbitrarily 'grass' on someone you don't like and get their phone call and internet web surfing use put into the hands directly of council, government workers ?

I remember when all this was being concocted, one of the 'selling points' about the phone snooping side of things was that it will only be a small amount of data, ie it couldn't show the subject of the phone call itself (obviously), but that's not the case with internet data retention (which council leaders and quangos will have access to next) , the subject of intent is very much known from the URL requested, and can be much much more intimate. And I don't think people really understand the implications of this.

And where are the powerful voices against all this ? Where is business ? What are they afraid of ? Are they afraid the Labour spin machine of doting commissars obsessed with hideous ideology will turn against them and start looking at their phone calls and internet records ?

Naturally all this itself is just one small part of the the regime's ongoing plans.

This sounds a like a communist police state to me, hidden behind the crap about 'shared values, security, terrorism, a new 'modern' crime' and so on. As such I think it's only fair to treat the country as that as I've said before. How else exactly are you supposed to treat it ?

And there is another factor to all this too. Those civil servants and council workers compliant in the destruction of basic human dignity with this are also damaging themselves as well as sadly becoming a becoming a real legitimate target in their own right.

Worryingly, as pointed out by Colonel Turner in the interview I posted recently, is that while you have a collection of just career junior ministers and council employees, you have people in government who know exactly what they are doing too, and this has to be a source of enormous concern.

As Colonel Turner also points out, one would imagine there is a gradual 'process of persuasion' but there has been none really, and the Iraq War has wrongly become the focus of sin, isolated out by both Labour, and people in the media supportive of them, as some lone anomaly where it can be cautiously conceded that 'mistakes have been made'.

This is of course obscene, and again, a way of moving the debate away from the war crime of Iraq itself, and the kind of thinking, the kind of judgments and zeal to sell that crime in the first place along with all of Labour's other crimes.

If anything about Iraq, it seems that a number of people in the Labour project were quite happy with it if only to ensure there is then a resulting security concern at home that can then be used to implement their own re-writing of society into an Orwellian socialist nightmare.

But as I've said here before here, I believe responsible council workers or employees of government agencies should be ready to blow the whistle on all this, and resign and disrupt these activities as necessary. I also feel strongly that at least people should not acknowledge the legitimacy of this at all, in any case where it may pertain to them and refuse to co-operate with any results leading from it.

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Blogger Irdial said...

First of all, thank heavens you are back Jultra.

Secondly, all bets are off.

Everyone in the UK has no obligation to obey any of this, or anything resulting from any of this.

If you do not take this stance, then you are complicit. Period.

That means, whatever they try to do to you as a result of these obscene measures is invalid on its face.

All decent people have reached the end of their patience.

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to see you're back, Jultra! I was beginning to think you'd given up. Nil desperandum, sez I!

irdial has hit the nail on the head; civil disobedience, and lots of it. Of course, under the 'Anti-Terrorist' legislation, that makes us both terrorists! What a joke! At least, it would be, were it not so serious. I'm not sure that I agreed with all of anon's post though. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the fight just yet. I'll see you both at the barricades!


10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re the above. I don't know where you are, but there's a Stop the War march on Mon 8th at 1.00pm beginning in Trafalger Square. The organisers have also pledged civil disobedience, especially if the proposed war on Iran goes ahead. Link ready if you want it.

Also, I've listened to the Monteith/Turner interview; what an ear-opener, especially some of the bits about the EU! I've passed that link to another blogsite, if that's ok, and already it's got some interesting comments.


9:09 AM  
Blogger J.UL1R4 said...

Hey guys how you doing !!? Great to hear from you.


Well of course the title of that piece should really have been 'Labour's communist police state again YAWN' because we've had so much of this crap it's getting old already, and that one didn't even need a vote as a I understand it. All this stuff just needs to be got rid of.

Sweet old Lady, great, yes by all means send the link and I'll get it up here. If I can make it tommorow I will be there.

The last thing I was reading about Iraq they were building a wall there. Good Lord.

And yes that's a very good interview that with Barry Turner. He's a very interesting researcher, if I ever do a podcast thing here I would love to interview Barry Turner.

I wonder if he's ever appeared on something like Alex Jones.

Thanks again

10:04 AM  

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